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Perry and Shawna Mornings

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January 23, 2024

The Eternal Dance of Love

Life is, at its heart, is a love story that began and has always existed between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Today we plunge into the deep water that God is one and has always existed in a community of love.

Helping us out is Dr. Jeremy Grinnell who has his PhD in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary, he taught at Cornerstone Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI. He’s a bible teacher, a fantasy novelist, a stage actor, a voice actor and has his own amazing story of redemption. Check it out at

First Jeremy shares why he’s so passionate about helping us understand the Trinity. Next, Chris, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener asks, “If God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, who do we pray to?”  Then, why does the teaching of the Trinity even matter for my real life? Next, God has always been and will forever be others focused.

Then, analogies to help us understand the Trinity—the upside and downside of these analogies. Last, how The Chosen series has done a beautiful job of showing both the humanity and divinity of Jesus. If you’re encouraged by the podcast, please share and subscribe!


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Perry LaHaie

Perry LaHaie's passion is to know Jesus and make Him known. “I’m all in with Jesus but not all put together. I need Jesus right now as much as I did when I first started following Him!” Perry says. In addition to co-hosting Perry and Shawna Mornings, Perry is a singer, songwriter, recording artist, and advocate for those who haven’t yet heard the gospel, especially those in the Muslim world. Born and raised in northern Michigan, he earned a bachelor’s degree in Communications and a graduate degree in Cross- cultural Communications. Perry also serves with Frontiers, a worldwide ministry to Muslims. Perry and his bride, Teresa, call Holland, Michigan home. They have two adult children, Kali and Taylor, and Taylor’s bride, Bri.


Shawna Beyer

Shawna Beyer has a way of telling stories that create personal connection— to her, to one another, and to God. She has been a homeschool mom, church planter, project lead for a consulting company, and church staff member. Though she’s been involved in ministry with her husband (Dan) in Iowa, Arizona, and now Michigan, she was born and raised in Southern California and as they say, “You can take the girl out of California . . .” She is mom to four grown kids (Bryn, Drayson, Eden, and Haven) who no longer need her but humor her anyway. Shawna is passionate about the rhythms we weave into the fabric of our lives to fall more in love with God each day. Healthy foods are her go-to, but she will abandon that whole track in a heartbeat for a homemade cinnamon roll like Grandma used to make.

Perry and Shawna Mornings

The Perry and Shawna Podcast: Real life conversations reminding you that you’re Abba’s child and that you’re blessed to be a blessing and loved to share Jesus’ love.