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April 25, 2025
The #1 Way God Changes You Inside Out – Jeremy Grinnell
One of Perry’s mentors say that the primary way we’re changed from inside out on our journey of faith is through daily repentance. Perry’s been wrestling with that in light of other scriptures that say otherwise and he bounces it off Jeremy.
Bible questions answered by Jeremy in today’s episode!
Dr. Jeremy Grinnell earned his PhD in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught at a West Michigan seminary for 15 years.
Hank asks, “God commands us to rest on the Sabbath. The Sabbath is literally Saturday. Am I disobeying God by resting on Sunday??”
Dave asks, “Is baptism required for salvation?” Stephanie asks, “The Apostle’s Creed says ‘Jesus descended into hell.’ Did he really go to hell or was it the horror of the cross, of his separation from God that was considered hell?”
Jim asks, “Jesus always made glorifying His Father the priority. At His death He says ‘Now glorify the Son.’ So, should we now be praying the Lord’s Prayer by saying, ‘Hallowed be your Names,’ since Jesus is now glorified with the Father?”
And Scotts asks, “At our Maundy Thursday sermon this year, the pastor said ‘Jesus and his disciples likely did not eat lamb at His last supper, but just the bread and wine and bitter herbs.’ I’ve never heard that before. What are your thoughts Dr. J?”
April 24, 2025
The Holy Land: Connecting the Land with Its Stories – Jack Beck
Experience the land, culture, and customs surrounding the Bible’s most compelling stories with geographer Dr. Jack Beck in all-new episodes of The Holy Land.
Jack Beck (PhD) is the host of the fourth and final season of the 10-episode docu-series The Holy Land: Connecting the Land with Its Stories.
Jack helps us understand the land and culture of the bible, so that our reading of the stories are transformed, and our faith is deepened!
Jack shares how the green pastures of Psalm 23 weren’t green at all. The sheep were absolutely dependent on the shepherd to lead them to the hiding tufts of grass. Showing us just how dependent we are on the Good Shepherd!
Jack shows why Jesus was compelled to go through Samaria to talk with the Samaritan woman at the well. He did it in that exact moment in time to fulfill a 2000 year old promise. What promise was that??
We see that Jesus went to Nain to raise a child from the dead to accomplish an identical miracle that happened in the same place over 1000 years before that. So that the people could begin to understand Jesus’ true identity.
Finally Jack shows us that Jesus followed the same path as David when David’s life was threatened. For David he fled past Gethsemane into the safe Judean wilderness. Jesus could have taken that same path to safety. But he chose not to. Why?
Also in this episode, Perry shares, “In my early journey with Jesus when I’d fail, I thought, ‘I’ll never change.’ But I don’t believe that anymore. Because I understand something powerful now that I didn’t then.”
As Shawna read the story of Jesus’ resurrection it stood out to her that Mary was with Jesus in the garden, and she didn’t know it. And the disciples on the road to Emmaus walked with Jesus and they didn’t know it was him. It made her wonder, “Lord, are there times that you have been right here, and I didn’t know it?”
April 23, 2025
“God Was Next to Me, and I Didn’t Even Know It” - Shawna
At 4 years old, laying in the grass in the middle of the ballfield Shawna thought, “If I died no one would care”. That was the first time she thought her life didn’t matter. When that memory came flooding back as an adult she asked, “Lord, where were you?”
Imagine the blood and water flowing from Jesus’ wounded side. It becomes a river of life flowing into the ocean of God’s unfailing love. And when you give your life over to Jesus you are plunged, full body, into this ocean. It’s a deep dive into what it means to be “In Christ.”
The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. We know this firsthand. Don’t believe me? Skip your cup of morning coffee and your flesh will let you know how weak it really is. We can, with God’s help, train our bodies to be obedient to the will of God.
It was Good Friday at Perry’s church. Every heart was tuned to Jesus. Perry says, “I felt the love of God again come pouring into my heart by the Holy Spirit. But as much as I need these experiences, they’re not just for me, they’re for the world!”
April 22, 2025
How to Talk With Your Kids About Sex
As an innocent young boy, Nick was at a sleepover with a friend when he first saw porn. A curiosity became an addiction.
With all his heart he wanted freedom, but who do you tell you’re addicted to porn? Where do you go for help?
Nick Stumbo found the help he needed at Pure Desire. Today Nick is their executive director. Pure Desire is a ministry helping us find freedom and healing from sexual brokenness.
Social media and porn are raising our kids. For our kids to come to us with their curiosity so that we can share God’s great design for their sexuality we must normalize talking about sex with our kids.
And that starts with letting them know that they can bring any and all of their questions to us!
April 21, 2025
True Christians Should Never Struggle
That’s what Perry thought as a teenager. No Jesus follower ever admitted to him that they were struggling. He thought he had to be all put together.
We’re are driven by our desire to avoid pain. To fake it till we make it. Yet, suffering is unavoidable. So let’s be honest, let’s be human.
Dave Horne, Spiritual Director at Winning at Home, reminds us that Jesus massively suffered. He understands our physical, emotional, relational, and even spiritual pain.
Through experiencing deep loneliness Dave learned how healing connection is. We are created for community!
After 20 years as a pastor and 8 years as a missionary Dave got his best paying job, yet and 2 weeks in, he hated it! Couldn’t sleep at night. Was miserable.
He discovered that he was exhausted from trying to achieve more, go higher, reach more! He was tired of trying to be someone he wasn’t.
It was in his suffering that God allowed Dave to learn about himself and to connect more deeply with God. The hard things in life are how God gets our attention and changes us.
Also, in this episode, Shawna shares what it feels like to be entering into being an empty nester. What’s next? On the day Jesus died the disciples had no idea what was next. But resurrection was just around the corner. It may feel like Friday, but Sunday’s coming!
Perry admits, “I let my best friend down.” Perry’s friend had a shining moment in the past couple weeks. And Perry showed up half-heartedly. And what he received from his buddy after he admitted it, blew him away.
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Perry LaHaie
Perry LaHaie's passion is to know Jesus and make Him known. “I’m all in with Jesus but not all put together. I need Jesus right now as much as I did when I first started following Him!” Perry says. In addition to co-hosting Perry and Shawna Mornings, Perry is a singer, songwriter, recording artist, and advocate for those who haven’t yet heard the gospel, especially those in the Muslim world. Born and raised in northern Michigan, he earned a bachelor’s degree in Communications and a graduate degree in Cross- cultural Communications. Perry also serves with Frontiers, a worldwide ministry to Muslims. Perry and his bride, Teresa, call Holland, Michigan home. They have two adult children, Kali and Taylor, and Taylor’s bride, Bri.
Shawna Beyer
Shawna Beyer has a way of telling stories that create personal connection— to her, to one another, and to God. She has been a homeschool mom, church planter, project lead for a consulting company, and church staff member. Though she’s been involved in ministry with her husband (Dan) in Iowa, Arizona, and now Michigan, she was born and raised in Southern California and as they say, “You can take the girl out of California . . .” She is mom to four grown kids (Bryn, Drayson, Eden, and Haven) who no longer need her but humor her anyway. Shawna is passionate about the rhythms we weave into the fabric of our lives to fall more in love with God each day. Healthy foods are her go-to, but she will abandon that whole track in a heartbeat for a homemade cinnamon roll like Grandma used to make.
Perry and Shawna Mornings
The Perry and Shawna Podcast: Real life conversations reminding you that you’re Abba’s child and that you’re blessed to be a blessing and loved to share Jesus’ love.