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January 12, 2024

The Beautiful, Painful, Breath-Taking Journey To Spiritual Maturity

Becoming a mature, grown-up, robust follower of Jesus is the journey of a lifetime. There are no shortcuts, there’s no wonder pill. It’s the journey of a thousand miles that begins with a single step.

Today Brian Aulick, lead pastor of Engedi Church and host of the Made To Advance podcast joins Perry to talk about the steps we must take to reach spiritual maturity.

It starts with the basics, turning from our false saviors to Jesus, getting baptized, adopting a servant mindset, and living in the light of eternity (which motivates us to make the most of now).

But then it’s not just knowing and even practicing the basics. But it’s intentionally passing them onto others. In other words, being a disciple who’s making disciples.

And last it’s not just practicing the basics and passing them on, it’s saying, “Jesus, I don’t want to live in past victories. Take me into the deep waters of dependence where I’ll never make it unless you come through.”

It’s the hard, beautiful, exhilarating journey to become a fully mature follower of Jesus. And every step we take on the journey leads to the joy we long for but can never achieve when we live life for self.


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Perry LaHaie

Perry LaHaie's passion is to know Jesus and make Him known. “I’m all in with Jesus but not all put together. I need Jesus right now as much as I did when I first started following Him!” Perry says. In addition to co-hosting Perry and Shawna Mornings, Perry is a singer, songwriter, recording artist, and advocate for those who haven’t yet heard the gospel, especially those in the Muslim world. Born and raised in northern Michigan, he earned a bachelor’s degree in Communications and a graduate degree in Cross- cultural Communications. Perry also serves with Frontiers, a worldwide ministry to Muslims. Perry and his bride, Teresa, call Holland, Michigan home. They have two adult children, Kali and Taylor, and Taylor’s bride, Bri.


Shawna Beyer

Shawna Beyer has a way of telling stories that create personal connection— to her, to one another, and to God. She has been a homeschool mom, church planter, project lead for a consulting company, and church staff member. Though she’s been involved in ministry with her husband (Dan) in Iowa, Arizona, and now Michigan, she was born and raised in Southern California and as they say, “You can take the girl out of California . . .” She is mom to four grown kids (Bryn, Drayson, Eden, and Haven) who no longer need her but humor her anyway. Shawna is passionate about the rhythms we weave into the fabric of our lives to fall more in love with God each day. Healthy foods are her go-to, but she will abandon that whole track in a heartbeat for a homemade cinnamon roll like Grandma used to make.

Perry and Shawna Mornings

The Perry and Shawna Podcast: Real life conversations reminding you that you’re Abba’s child and that you’re blessed to be a blessing and loved to share Jesus’ love.