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Perry and Shawna Mornings

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December 06, 2023

Why Would Jesus Leave Heaven to Be With Us?

The God of the Universe who is worshiped constantly, where everything is absolutely as it should be, left heaven to be with us? Why would He do that?

The Prince of Peace has come. But maybe you’re thinking, "Then where is the peace?" Fair question. It's a conversation about where the peace is right now, (because it is here), and how not to give into despair because it's not fully here.

Shawna has been praying the same prayer for years. Stepping into a new year with the same request is disheartening. She cried out to God, explaining that if He would just answer this prayer she could become who He created her to be. That’s when she sensed God saying something she did not expect. At all.

Perry wonders, "Who am I that God would want to be with me?" And then, "I wonder if Mary thought, 'Who am I that God would want me to bear his Son?'"

Shawna shares what surfaced for her as she reflected on what God has taught her in 2023 and how Isaiah 41:13 reminds her of how safe we are because God is with us.

Then, “How are you?” We hear those words so often we usually don’t believe the person asking the question actually wants to know. It’s possible to have the same casual response to hearing the words, “God loves you.”

Last, life is the journey of learning to trust God, of learning whether we trust him enough to leap into his arms, whether we trust him enough to catch us.


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Perry LaHaie

Perry LaHaie's passion is to know Jesus and make Him known. “I’m all in with Jesus but not all put together. I need Jesus right now as much as I did when I first started following Him!” Perry says. In addition to co-hosting Perry and Shawna Mornings, Perry is a singer, songwriter, recording artist, and advocate for those who haven’t yet heard the gospel, especially those in the Muslim world. Born and raised in northern Michigan, he earned a bachelor’s degree in Communications and a graduate degree in Cross- cultural Communications. Perry also serves with Frontiers, a worldwide ministry to Muslims. Perry and his bride, Teresa, call Holland, Michigan home. They have two adult children, Kali and Taylor, and Taylor’s bride, Bri.


Shawna Beyer

Shawna Beyer has a way of telling stories that create personal connection— to her, to one another, and to God. She has been a homeschool mom, church planter, project lead for a consulting company, and church staff member. Though she’s been involved in ministry with her husband (Dan) in Iowa, Arizona, and now Michigan, she was born and raised in Southern California and as they say, “You can take the girl out of California . . .” She is mom to four grown kids (Bryn, Drayson, Eden, and Haven) who no longer need her but humor her anyway. Shawna is passionate about the rhythms we weave into the fabric of our lives to fall more in love with God each day. Healthy foods are her go-to, but she will abandon that whole track in a heartbeat for a homemade cinnamon roll like Grandma used to make.

Perry and Shawna Mornings

The Perry and Shawna Podcast: Real life conversations reminding you that you’re Abba’s child and that you’re blessed to be a blessing and loved to share Jesus’ love.