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Perry and Shawna Mornings

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October 09, 2023

Let Shame Drive You To Jesus

Shame is a deadly poison. It says, “What you’ve done wrong is who you are and who’ll you’ll always be, there’s no hope.” And yet that deadly poison is just what God uses to show us our need.

Dr. Jeremy GrinnelI joins us to answer your Bible questions. He earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at Cornerstone for nearly 15 years.

Here are some of the  great questions that came in from our listeners today.

How can any good come from shame? Then, why did Jesus tend to refer to Himself as the "Son of Man?” Next, “In Ezekiel. God also calls Ezekiel ‘son of man’ does that mean Ezekiel was divine?”

And, “God asks Ezekiel to do some strange things. Lie on your left side and place the sins of Israel on yourself. Is this symbolism or did he really do it?”

Last, what’s the difference between believing in Jesus and receiving Jesus? And if you only believe in Jesus and don’t receive him, are you really a child of God?


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Perry LaHaie

Perry LaHaie's passion is to know Jesus and make Him known. “I’m all in with Jesus but not all put together. I need Jesus right now as much as I did when I first started following Him!” Perry says. In addition to co-hosting Perry and Shawna Mornings, Perry is a singer, songwriter, recording artist, and advocate for those who haven’t yet heard the gospel, especially those in the Muslim world. Born and raised in northern Michigan, he earned a bachelor’s degree in Communications and a graduate degree in Cross- cultural Communications. Perry also serves with Frontiers, a worldwide ministry to Muslims. Perry and his bride, Teresa, call Holland, Michigan home. They have two adult children, Kali and Taylor, and Taylor’s bride, Bri.


Shawna Beyer

Shawna Beyer has a way of telling stories that create personal connection— to her, to one another, and to God. She has been a homeschool mom, church planter, project lead for a consulting company, and church staff member. Though she’s been involved in ministry with her husband (Dan) in Iowa, Arizona, and now Michigan, she was born and raised in Southern California and as they say, “You can take the girl out of California . . .” She is mom to four grown kids (Bryn, Drayson, Eden, and Haven) who no longer need her but humor her anyway. Shawna is passionate about the rhythms we weave into the fabric of our lives to fall more in love with God each day. Healthy foods are her go-to, but she will abandon that whole track in a heartbeat for a homemade cinnamon roll like Grandma used to make.

Perry and Shawna Mornings

The Perry and Shawna Podcast: Real life conversations reminding you that you’re Abba’s child and that you’re blessed to be a blessing and loved to share Jesus’ love.