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Believers Coming Back to God and Recognizing Toxic Church Leadership with Lyle Wells and Kat Armstrong

Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme of “Church” with freedom stories from our believers, as they shared how they got back on track with God. We then had Colin Smith join us as we talked about the centrality of the Bible and the importance of teaching the Bible in the church. Colin Smith is Senior Pastor Emeritus of The Orchard Evangelical Free Church. He is also the founder and teacher of the long-time, daily radio program, Open the Bible, which airs weekday mornings on Moody Radio at 9 am CT. He has also written several books, including “Fly Through the Bible: A Brief Introduction.” We then had Dr. Wayne Grudem join us to talk about systematic theology. Dr. Grudem serves as a Distinguished Research Professor of Theology and Biblical Studies Emeritus at Phoenix Seminary in Arizona. He has also written several books, including “Systematic Theology.” Then Lyle Wells and Kat Armstrong joined us to share what toxic leadership looks like in the church. Lyle is a respected leader, pastor, executive coach, and speaker in Christian leadership circles. He is also President of Integrus Leadership and has mentored thousands of Kingdom-minded leaders, equipping them with practical, faith-driven resources to strengthen their leadership. Kat is a sought-after Bible teacher, preacher, Director of Marketing at Integres Leadership, and podcast host. Both Lyle and Kat wrote a book called “Easy to Follow: Trading Toxic Leadership for the Way of Jesus.” We then had Karl Vaters join us to discuss the spiritual impact of smaller churches. Karl has served in a small church ministry for over 40 years and has gained hands-on pastoral experience. He also hosts a biweekly podcast, The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith and Ministry. He has also written several books, including “Small Church Essentials.” You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast. 

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps: 

Freedom Stories (How I Got Back on Track with God) [ 03:53 ]

Colin Smith Interview (Centrality of the Word) [ 30:55 ]

Dr. Wayne Grudem interview (Systematic Theology) [ 45:44 ]

Lye Wells and Kat Armstrong (Identifying Toxic Church Leadership) [01:01:17 ]

Karl Vaters (Small Churches) [01:15:46 ]

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