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Perry and Shawna Mornings

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June 18, 2024

The Sex Talk You Never Got

In our sex-obsessed world, it might seem ironic that men need more talk about sex. But in reality, sexuality is one of the most neglected conversations for men.

The message Shawna grew up with was “Men want sex all the time. They can’t help it.” Where’s God in that? There must be more to the story.

Christian counselor and trauma therapist, Sam Jolman, who specializes in men’s issues joins us to talk about his new book The Sex Talk You Never Got.

Perry, Shawna and Sam talk about pornography, shame, struggling alone, how to have conversations about sex at any age, and God’s good plan for our sexuality.

So, married or single, The Sex Talk You Never Got will help men discover the joy of their God-given sexuality and invite them to celebrate  - rather than struggle against – the gift of sexual desire.

One day you will stand before God, faultless, blameless, without a single sin or stain. What the heck? How is that even possible? Because even the most godly person still has faults right up to their final breath.

Lastly, in the late nights, full days and vacations of summer how do you maintain regular time with Jesus? Shawna shares some of her favorite ways to sneak away with her first love in the summer months.


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Perry LaHaie

Perry LaHaie's passion is to know Jesus and make Him known. “I’m all in with Jesus but not all put together. I need Jesus right now as much as I did when I first started following Him!” Perry says. In addition to co-hosting Perry and Shawna Mornings, Perry is a singer, songwriter, recording artist, and advocate for those who haven’t yet heard the gospel, especially those in the Muslim world. Born and raised in northern Michigan, he earned a bachelor’s degree in Communications and a graduate degree in Cross- cultural Communications. Perry also serves with Frontiers, a worldwide ministry to Muslims. Perry and his bride, Teresa, call Holland, Michigan home. They have two adult children, Kali and Taylor, and Taylor’s bride, Bri.


Shawna Beyer

Shawna Beyer has a way of telling stories that create personal connection— to her, to one another, and to God. She has been a homeschool mom, church planter, project lead for a consulting company, and church staff member. Though she’s been involved in ministry with her husband (Dan) in Iowa, Arizona, and now Michigan, she was born and raised in Southern California and as they say, “You can take the girl out of California . . .” She is mom to four grown kids (Bryn, Drayson, Eden, and Haven) who no longer need her but humor her anyway. Shawna is passionate about the rhythms we weave into the fabric of our lives to fall more in love with God each day. Healthy foods are her go-to, but she will abandon that whole track in a heartbeat for a homemade cinnamon roll like Grandma used to make.

Perry and Shawna Mornings

The Perry and Shawna Podcast: Real life conversations reminding you that you’re Abba’s child and that you’re blessed to be a blessing and loved to share Jesus’ love.