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April 04, 2024

The Grief Garden

​We're going to a garden on Chris Fabry Live. It's a garden of grief. A few months ago, Ron and Nan Deal talked about the concept of the grief garden. They had been through the death of their son Connor a few years ago and this metaphor provided comfort, hope, and protection. You'll hear more about that and a fictional story based on the idea on the next Chris Fabry Live.

The Grief Garden Story

Entire program with Ron and Nan Deal from August 16, 2023

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Ron and Nan Deal
Ron and Nan Deal

Ron and Nan Deal

Ron Deal is director of FamilyLife Blended, a division of FamilyLife. He is a family therapist and conference speaker specializing in marriage enrichment and stepfamily education.

Nan Deal has a degree in Early Childhood Education and is a teacher with over 25 years’ experience in public and private schools. She is a leader with a local Re-Generation ministry and together she and Ron lead a While We're Waiting support group for parents who have lost a child. Nan speaks with Ron in the Empowered to Love Marriage Seminar in which they share the principles that have helped transform their relationship from pride, great grief, and alcohol abuse. They know firsthand what it means to say that the old has passed away and the new has come.

Ron and Nan have been married since 1986 and have three boys. Their middle son Connor died unexpectedly in February 2009 at the age of 12. In his memory, the Deals built a therapeutic art center for the Touch a Life Foundation, a non-profit that rescues and rehabilitates children in Ghana, West Africa, from trafficking and child exploitation.

Jonathan McReynolds
Jonathan McReynolds

Jonathan McReynolds

What was born in Jonathan McReynolds' dorm room in the presence of a few friends has graduated to Christian music's biggest stage. And Jonathan, now 32, did it with an incredible voice and a beautifully honest approach to songwriting.

His EP ​People debuted at #1 and has been called the believers' soundtrack of a crazy 2020. After earning three Stellars, its single "Grace" became a record fourth #1 Billboard airplay single in a row and "Movin' On" featuring Mali Music garnered his first Grammy win and fourth nomination. His latest full-length album, Make Room, debuted #1 on Billboard Gospel. It has been hailed as a generational work, earning eight Stellars and two Grammy nominations. The title track "Make Room" and hit single "Not Lucky, I'm Loved" from this album, gave Jonathan his first two #1 songs on Billboard.

His second album, Life Music: Stage Two, features another superstar fan in India.Arie and remained #1 on the Billboard Gospel chart for 4 weeks.​ Jonathan starred as a judge on BET's hit series Sunday Best for two seasons (2019, 2020) and in 2021, starred in his first movie "Favorite Son" a BET+ original.

In May 2015, Jonathan attained his Masters of Arts in Biblical Studies from Moody Theological Seminary. He is an adjunct instructor at his alma mater Columbia College, an official contributor to Huffington Post, and the founder of Elihu Nation, a nonprofit organization that promotes wisdom and has awarded $40k in scholarships. He was recently named a new member of Mensa, an international high IQ society, as well.

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Chris Fabry

Chris Fabry is the host of Chris Fabry Live on Moody Radio and is the author of more than 80 books. He is a member of the Christy Award Hall of Fame for Christian Fiction. His latest release is Saving Grayson from Focus on the Family. He and his wife live near Tucson, AZ.

Chris Fabry Live

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