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Perry and Shawna Mornings

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October 25, 2022

What a Foul Mouth She Had!

As a girl Heather Holleman was a complainer, a gossiper, used foul language, couldn’t connect with anybody. But now as an Associate Teaching Professor of English at Penn State, she’s leading colleagues and students into the love of Jesus.  The difference is Jesus but it has also been the hard work of learning how to connect at a deep heart level in all her relationships.

And Heather captures all her lessons learned in her new book, The Six Conversations: Pathways to Connecting in an Age of Isolation & Incivility. First, Heather’s life-giving connection with an Uber driver. Then, the moment God awakened Heather from her slumber of self-absorption. Next, in our cancel culture of anger, depression, anxiety, and unforgiveness, what we long for most is warm connections with fellow human beings!

Then, Heather’s atheist colleague who loves hearing about Jesus and so many of her students who come to her asking why she loves and believes in Jesus. Next, believing the best in others. Then, how to have conversations with people who are really uncomfortable opening up. Then, 3 questions our culture desperately needs right now. Last, if you’re afraid of deep conversation or you just feel you’re not conversation gifted, you can learn. Really!


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Perry LaHaie

Perry LaHaie's passion is to know Jesus and make Him known. “I’m all in with Jesus but not all put together. I need Jesus right now as much as I did when I first started following Him!” Perry says. In addition to co-hosting Perry and Shawna Mornings, Perry is a singer, songwriter, recording artist, and advocate for those who haven’t yet heard the gospel, especially those in the Muslim world. Born and raised in northern Michigan, he earned a bachelor’s degree in Communications and a graduate degree in Cross- cultural Communications. Perry also serves with Frontiers, a worldwide ministry to Muslims. Perry and his bride, Teresa, call Holland, Michigan home. They have two adult children, Kali and Taylor, and Taylor’s bride, Bri.


Shawna Beyer

Shawna Beyer has a way of telling stories that create personal connection— to her, to one another, and to God. She has been a homeschool mom, church planter, project lead for a consulting company, and church staff member. Though she’s been involved in ministry with her husband (Dan) in Iowa, Arizona, and now Michigan, she was born and raised in Southern California and as they say, “You can take the girl out of California . . .” She is mom to four grown kids (Bryn, Drayson, Eden, and Haven) who no longer need her but humor her anyway. Shawna is passionate about the rhythms we weave into the fabric of our lives to fall more in love with God each day. Healthy foods are her go-to, but she will abandon that whole track in a heartbeat for a homemade cinnamon roll like Grandma used to make.

Perry and Shawna Mornings

The Perry and Shawna Podcast: Real life conversations reminding you that you’re Abba’s child and that you’re blessed to be a blessing and loved to share Jesus’ love.